Comments on: Proposition 2: Why eaters should care

By: lovechickens

lovechickens — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:28:56 +0000

Cool ideas on this site, thanks. I honestly took the plunge and got me some chickens last week! Now I have so many eggs like you wouldn't believe. You might like these egg recipes.

By: Jordan

Jordan — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:43:36 +0000

That was very insightful, but before you jump to any conclusion about my level of intelligence or my level of health. This is not China and I can guarantee the regulations that the USDA has implemented will never allow that to happen. I would also like to know what farm you visited when you saw chickens having their beaks ground off. Oh yeah… you’re the ADAM HENRY!

By: NZ

NZ — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:24:44 +0000

“Don’t force your ideals on how animals should be treated on me” . Sorry Jordan, there are a lot of things you may think you can do to your animals, but the fact is, it is against the law to do them and you can –and will– face misd or felony charges for animal cruelty.
What is obvious from your remarks is first your ignorance of history, and second, your youthful, stupid faith in Industry. Back in the day before there were consumer protections, and Pure Food and Drug laws, before there was government oversight about how food was made, all kinds of atrocities happened …. and were fed to the public– until the profit mongers were exposed. Abuses still happen but regulations –and penalties–have made it clear that is is the wrong thing for companies to do. (For example, this year scores of babies in China were sickened and many died because their formula had been boosted with the poison melamine. This artificially inflates protein content. Don’t lets get started on downed cattle getting in the food chain.
Jordan concludes, gallingly, that he will “suffer” increased costs. Suffer indeed. Suffering is what a living, sentient (um, that means it has FEELINGS and nerve endings) being endures when, for example, its beak is ground off its face without anesthesia, in an attempt to minimize maiming or even lethal injuries from overcrowding in battery cages. i
Actually, maybe it would do you –and all of us– some good to manage without an egg mcmuffin every now and again.
Adam Henry.

By: Jordan

Jordan — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:04:24 +0000

If you want to support farms that provide standing room for egg laying hens it is your natural right to do so, but don’t force your ideals about how animals should be treated on me and that is exactly what prop 2 does. I’m now going to suffer the costs of rising egg and poultry products.

By: Rose L.

Rose L. — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:18:22 +0000

What is wrong with you anti Prop 2 people? It is not demand free range for chickens!Prop 2 only requires that egg laying hens have room to stand up, lie down, turn around, and fully extend their limbs. I am so saddened that some of you don’t see this as a humane priority…and I am so pleased that the large majority of our state clearly saw this ethical need. Now..the California Egg Council needs to promote California Hens as “Happy Hens” just like the Calif. Cheese council did for “Happy Cows.”

By: nina z

nina z — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:43:47 +0000

jordan, the statement that “animals have more rights than humans” is plain wrong. loose raith in the human race, if you must, but not over this issue: the law persists in defining animals as property, and prop 2will help assure that animals raised for food will be treated more humanely on their way to our tables. many thanks to heather for introducing the topic for discussion, and to reanna for encouraging a visit to a farm rescue shelter to get to know our food in a more intimate way. what this proposition tells us, reassuringly, is that people care about animals are handled.

By: Jordan

Jordan — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:31:43 +0000

Animals officially have more rights than humans now. I have lost faith in the human race.

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:22:14 +0000

I am glad prop 2 passed. I will still keep voting by purchasing LOCAL cage free eggs. If we all continue doing so, this positive way of life for us as human beings and for all animals and for this precious earth will continue to improve. Keep voting!

By: lindsey

lindsey — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:06:48 +0000

I completely support Prop 2. What is California coming to when we can’t even allow the poor animals a decent life before we slaughter them?!? It’s the least we can do, seeing that they’re dying for our consumption.

By: local egg lover

local egg lover — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:56:28 +0000

I do vote with my $$ and buy local, free-range eggs, produce, and meat. I’m concerned about this proposition because it is a feel-good measure without any teeth. There isn’t specific language about regulations, enforcement, or money to help those who want to convert but may not have the means. I support local farms and local land used for agriculture over development or even open space. I am frightened at the thought that this law may shut down local family farmers. I dislike measures that are not written in cooperation with the people these laws will impact, and though I think it will pass, I think it is revealing that so many local farmers are against it.